Comments on: Lavender 2: The Collage http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/ More than you ever wanted to hear from Bestselling Author Jenny Crusie. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:42:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Shiloh http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150786 Shiloh Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:59:38 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150786 I love it! I'm very curious about the Jack Black character and the Betty White character! So looking forward to this book (and the ones that follow!) I would bid on a collage too, especially Bet Me. Your stories are so loved they become personal. To be able to have a piece of the process of making it would have a huge amount of value. No it wouldn't be perfect art, but it would be... sentimental? ] I was one of the lucky few to win a "Uncorrected Bound Manuscript" of Maybe This Time, and it's not the least bit pretty (plain light blue cover), but still has a lot of value to me. I love it! I’m very curious about the Jack Black character and the Betty White character! So looking forward to this book (and the ones that follow!)

I would bid on a collage too, especially Bet Me. Your stories are so loved they become personal. To be able to have a piece of the process of making it would have a huge amount of value. No it wouldn’t be perfect art, but it would be… sentimental? ]

I was one of the lucky few to win a “Uncorrected Bound Manuscript” of Maybe This Time, and it’s not the least bit pretty (plain light blue cover), but still has a lot of value to me.

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]]> By: Jenny http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150690 Jenny Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:30:33 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150690 You'd love Scrivener. You can do that right on the computer. Great, great writing program. For Macs. You’d love Scrivener. You can do that right on the computer. Great, great writing program. For Macs.

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]]> By: Meredith B. http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150680 Meredith B. Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:29:55 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150680 I never did an actual cut-and-paste, but when I was working on big research papers I would write points or facts down on index cards and rearrange them until I could figure out what heading each piece of information fell under. I am also one of those incredibly detail-oriented outliners. I outlined my essays fanatically. I frequently found myself outlining paragraphs. I suspect it is a form of mental illness, but it got my essays written, so I gently decline to investigate that. I never did an actual cut-and-paste, but when I was working on big research papers I would write points or facts down on index cards and rearrange them until I could figure out what heading each piece of information fell under. I am also one of those incredibly detail-oriented outliners. I outlined my essays fanatically. I frequently found myself outlining paragraphs. I suspect it is a form of mental illness, but it got my essays written, so I gently decline to investigate that.

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]]> By: Meredith B. http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150678 Meredith B. Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:17:19 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150678 Oh, I didn't think you were questioning your ability, just whether or not they were worth auctioning. You said they were sloppy. I just didn't feel that the sloppiness mattered as much as you thought. But then, I like visual art-- I just don't understand it very well on a technical level. Also I may have misunderstood you. It was late, and my allergies have attacked my head pretty badly this week. I won't gross you out by describing them, though. :-) It's so interesting the way Sweetness and Light respond differently to the collages. I love watching children process what they see-- as you said, they're very honest. They're also more open do doing stuff that's out-of-the-box. I love that. Oh, I didn’t think you were questioning your ability, just whether or not they were worth auctioning. You said they were sloppy. I just didn’t feel that the sloppiness mattered as much as you thought. But then, I like visual art– I just don’t understand it very well on a technical level. Also I may have misunderstood you. It was late, and my allergies have attacked my head pretty badly this week. I won’t gross you out by describing them, though. :-)

It’s so interesting the way Sweetness and Light respond differently to the collages. I love watching children process what they see– as you said, they’re very honest. They’re also more open do doing stuff that’s out-of-the-box. I love that.

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]]> By: Clever Cherry aka Judy Long http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150677 Clever Cherry aka Judy Long Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:48:58 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150677 I love the collages & I can't wait for the book. Old Crusie, new Crusie, I don't care, it's all good. I did my first collage about a novel at your prompting, Jenny. It has served me so well. The collage gave me a key element that I really like about my novel that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise. I have learned a lot from the times that you teach on this blog. I'm sure a class would be valuable. Just don't use up any writing time unless you really want to... I love the collages & I can’t wait for the book. Old Crusie, new Crusie, I don’t care, it’s all good.

I did my first collage about a novel at your prompting, Jenny. It has served me so well. The collage gave me a key element that I really like about my novel that I wouldn’t have gotten otherwise.

I have learned a lot from the times that you teach on this blog. I’m sure a class would be valuable.

Just don’t use up any writing time unless you really want to…

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]]> By: Skye http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150672 Skye Wed, 09 Jun 2010 01:49:38 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150672 I did the cut-and-paste thing in high school and college, and used notecards a lot then, too. And haven't since then. Mind you, I no longer have to type out my papers and stories on a manual typewriter, either, but I should consider going back to at least an on-screen cut and paste action, at least as an experiment. Hmm. I did the cut-and-paste thing in high school and college, and used notecards a lot then, too. And haven’t since then. Mind you, I no longer have to type out my papers and stories on a manual typewriter, either, but I should consider going back to at least an on-screen cut and paste action, at least as an experiment. Hmm.

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]]> By: Skye http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150670 Skye Wed, 09 Jun 2010 01:44:52 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150670 Geez, Mary Stella! Be an overachiever why don't you! I've barely started! Good thing the class isn't being graded. :) Geez, Mary Stella! Be an overachiever why don’t you! I’ve barely started! Good thing the class isn’t being graded. :)

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]]> By: Skye http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150669 Skye Wed, 09 Jun 2010 01:41:34 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150669 IGA one buck? I need a couple of pair, at least! Yes, the handcuffs were the first thing I noticed about the new and improved collage! Which is probably wayyyy too revealing .... IGA one buck? I need a couple of pair, at least! Yes, the handcuffs were the first thing I noticed about the new and improved collage! Which is probably wayyyy too revealing ….

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]]> By: Kate G http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150659 Kate G Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:40:56 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150659 Oh Heck, I lived in Vancouver (BC not Washington) for years. Did nothing but rain. Imagine growing up in a place where it rained everybirthday I ever had there. Buy him a book about Stanley Park, and go to Ohio. I'm kidding - of course! ( about bailing on your husband, not about the rain.) Oh Heck, I lived in Vancouver (BC not Washington) for years. Did nothing but rain. Imagine growing up in a place where it rained everybirthday I ever had there. Buy him a book about Stanley Park, and go to Ohio.

I’m kidding – of course! ( about bailing on your husband, not about the rain.)

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]]> By: Susan http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150655 Susan Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:13:37 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150655 I did that for a major paper during grad school I actually have a picture with my on my living room floor, sissors in hand, all the paragraphs cut apart and partway rearranged. My Grade 12 English teacher was a big fan of "free writing" and I think I combined that with my own more concrete approach. The end paper was much better than my early drafts. I did that for a major paper during grad school I actually have a picture with my on my living room floor, sissors in hand, all the paragraphs cut apart and partway rearranged.

My Grade 12 English teacher was a big fan of “free writing” and I think I combined that with my own more concrete approach.

The end paper was much better than my early drafts.

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]]> By: CrankyOtter http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150620 CrankyOtter Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:22:12 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150620 Huh. That's interesting Katrina! I found my most successful papers were the ones where I wrote a draft, printed it out, then physically cut and rearranged the sentences. Like Jenny (kinda), I have to write before I know what I'm writing. So learning that my first draft is always a mess, and MUST be done BEFORE I can outline was the most useful thing I ever learned about my writing style. Too bad I didn't figure it out until I was a junior in college. (I never understood people who could outline before they wrote the paper. Outlines stop my process cold.) But let me write out what's in my head, then reshape it and make an outline so the structure is sensible, and I'm golden. But I've never known anyone else to use the same "cut and paste" method I have/had such luck with. Cool. Huh. That’s interesting Katrina! I found my most successful papers were the ones where I wrote a draft, printed it out, then physically cut and rearranged the sentences. Like Jenny (kinda), I have to write before I know what I’m writing. So learning that my first draft is always a mess, and MUST be done BEFORE I can outline was the most useful thing I ever learned about my writing style. Too bad I didn’t figure it out until I was a junior in college. (I never understood people who could outline before they wrote the paper. Outlines stop my process cold.) But let me write out what’s in my head, then reshape it and make an outline so the structure is sensible, and I’m golden. But I’ve never known anyone else to use the same “cut and paste” method I have/had such luck with. Cool.

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]]> By: Eve http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150604 Eve Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:31:09 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150604 cheapest place to host : it would probably be the local library's conference center and they don't give a diddly if you have coffee. also, and i think i speak for everyone - YAY for you considering teaching us your wisdom :) I split time between md and ca but I would so make it to ohio if you taught a weekend-long seminar...or if im really wishing for stuff, two weeks :) cheapest place to host : it would probably be the local library’s conference center and they don’t give a diddly if you have coffee. also, and i think i speak for everyone – YAY for you considering teaching us your wisdom :) I split time between md and ca but I would so make it to ohio if you taught a weekend-long seminar…or if im really wishing for stuff, two weeks :)

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]]> By: Bethany http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150595 Bethany Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:40:19 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150595 Xavier University might be willing to host you as a guest lecturer. They have a few programs that bring in lecturers for evening or Saturday programs and if you did a reduced rate for XU students, the space might not be that expensive. I still remember thinking that you were up there with my favorite professors when I listened to you and Bob talk about writing Don't Look Down. Xavier University might be willing to host you as a guest lecturer. They have a few programs that bring in lecturers for evening or Saturday programs and if you did a reduced rate for XU students, the space might not be that expensive.

I still remember thinking that you were up there with my favorite professors when I listened to you and Bob talk about writing Don’t Look Down.

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]]> By: robena grant http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150593 robena grant Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:29:28 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150593 One of your most memorable classes for me was the one I heard at the Sydney conference on motif and metaphor. I think it was titled Theme Master Class, or something like that. I'd love to take it again. But I loved all of the teaching you did at that conference and it was well worth rearranging my trip back home to accomodate the conference as well. When you talk at National it's standing room only and it usually last for only an hour. Not nearly enough. So keep us posted on a future Crusie Only workshop. I've never been to Ohio. ; ) One of your most memorable classes for me was the one I heard at the Sydney conference on motif and metaphor. I think it was titled Theme Master Class, or something like that. I’d love to take it again. But I loved all of the teaching you did at that conference and it was well worth rearranging my trip back home to accomodate the conference as well. When you talk at National it’s standing room only and it usually last for only an hour. Not nearly enough. So keep us posted on a future Crusie Only workshop. I’ve never been to Ohio. ; )

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]]> By: Danielle http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150592 Danielle Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:28:36 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150592 Do I smell a guest blogger in the making? Or do you prefer not to pimp the children? (Though I suspect these are not merely children) I have to say that I'm fascinated myself. Do I smell a guest blogger in the making? Or do you prefer not to pimp the children? (Though I suspect these are not merely children) I have to say that I’m fascinated myself.

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]]> By: Jenny http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150591 Jenny Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:25:38 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150591 Honestly, it's not about the art. It's putting one picture or word or object beside another and thinking, "Oh. Maybe <em>this</em>." You can do by ripping pages out of a magazine and pinning the to a bulletin board and moving them around until something clicks. It doesn't have to be a big project. Or just do little ones with three or four images for a scene. It's really about thinking about story with a different part of your brain, not about making something. Honestly, it’s not about the art. It’s putting one picture or word or object beside another and thinking, “Oh. Maybe this.” You can do by ripping pages out of a magazine and pinning the to a bulletin board and moving them around until something clicks. It doesn’t have to be a big project. Or just do little ones with three or four images for a scene. It’s really about thinking about story with a different part of your brain, not about making something.

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]]> By: Jenny http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150590 Jenny Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:22:49 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150590 Congratulations on that thesis, Katrina. That's huge! Congratulations on that thesis, Katrina. That’s huge!

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]]> By: KellyJ http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150587 KellyJ Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:05:30 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150587 If you teach it, it will be worth the money. If you teach it, it will be worth the money.

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]]> By: KellyJ http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150586 KellyJ Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:02:10 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150586 I would drive from Georgia for this class if I could. If you are willing to offer a one day workshop I will make the drive. Or maybe you could teach it online? :) I am also fascinated by your collages, especially looking at them after reading the books. I would love to try and make one out of physical materials - I have made one in Photoshop, but its not the same. But I have NO artistic skill and don't really know where to start. I would drive from Georgia for this class if I could. If you are willing to offer a one day workshop I will make the drive. Or maybe you could teach it online? :)

I am also fascinated by your collages, especially looking at them after reading the books. I would love to try and make one out of physical materials – I have made one in Photoshop, but its not the same. But I have NO artistic skill and don’t really know where to start.

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]]> By: McB http://www.arghink.com/2010/06/07/lavender-2-the-collage/#comment-150583 McB Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:55:24 +0000 http://www.arghink.com/?p=3658#comment-150583 Oh, and, yeah, I'd bid on a collage too. It's a piece of the process, your version of marginalia. Oh, and, yeah, I’d bid on a collage too. It’s a piece of the process, your version of marginalia.

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