Vince’s Place

Apr102010

I’m big on houses. I’ve been criticized for that (“Why are there always houses?”) which I don’t get (do they write John Irving and say, “So about the bears . . .”?) because I think the places people live say a lot about them, the places they choose to live (if they can afford to choose) and the things they put in the places they choose. Plus houses are a huge metaphor. The house in Crazy for You is very consciously a metaphor for Quinn; when her ex-boyfriend breaks in, it’s a symbolic rape, and when the long arm of the law fails her at the end, she finishes him off with the long arm of the porch rail. Nell’s first apartment in Fast Women is her transition home (which is where she has transition sex with Riley); when she finds her own apartment and moves in, she starts her permanent relationship with Gabe there. The gallery in Faking It is the body of the Goodnight family: The brains of the family is up in the attic and all their secrets are in the basement, plus the house is where they live and work, fight and dance, go broke and fall in love. In Wild Ride, Mab is living an isolated existence, temporarily staying in Cindy’s extra bedroom. When she joins the community there, she moves out to the trailer park and begins her new life as part of Dreamworld; that is, she moves into the Guardia when she moves into the Delpha’s Airstream. And in Maybe This Time, when Andie first sees Archer House, she quotes “The House of Usher” to herself, subconsciously realizing that the house is not a home but a tomb that the kids have been put living into:

. . . an ancient three-story stone house rose up, flaunting two rose windows, a crumbling tower, and a moat, all of it dark in the twilight. “The House of Archer,” Andie said to herself as she slowed to take it all in. Well, it was a dull, dark, and soundless day in the autumn of the year.

Andie struggles to make the place a home but finally escapes with the kids back into the warmth of the real Archer House, the home in Columbus where the Archer family lives and where they all belong.

I’d go on but you’re bored. Short version: Houses are really important to me.

So now I’m doing Lavender, and in this first book, Liz has no house and doesn’t want one. She stays in a lot of hotels while she’s working on books and she’s rigged up her ancient little Camry with an office in the back seat so she can work no matter where she is. It’s awful, and that’s going to change in the next book, but for the space of the first story, she is houseless. There is her mother’s house, which I’m basing on the house I spend my first seven years in, and there’s the Blue mansion which is Alien Territory and helpful for contrast, but there’s no sense of self and place in Liz. She’s completely adrift.

I knew that was going to be a strain for me–I need a house–but I didn’t realize until I looked back on what I’d already written that Lavender has possibly the best house of my entire career in it. I just gave it to Vince.

I knew Vince lived outside the town in the woods on the river. I knew he had some kind of sturdy Jeep/Land Rover/Guy Car because he lived on a dirt road, and I knew he had a winch on the front because I have teased Bob mercilessly about the winch on his Jeep. Liz also mocks Vince’s winch:

“Why in the name of god would you need a winch?”
“To pull people out of ditches.”
“How many people have you pulled out of ditches?”
“None.”
“So the winch is—”
“Waiting,” he said. “Much like me.”
“For me to get out of the car.”
“Yes.”

I also had some vague idea that he lived in a trailer because that would be affordable. If he bought riverfront land that flooded–riverfront land is notoriously floodable–and had a housetrailer on it, he could afford the great view. So I had this vague idea of a trailer in a lot of mud and trees on the river. Low rent but with some very nice things inside. I was thinking Rockford Files. Jim Rockford had a good solid desk and leather chair, so I gave Vince those, and I figured I’d find some picture of the Rockford trailer on the net and I’d be done.

Then in an entirely unrelated search, I went looking for pictures of diners because there’s a diner in Liz’s home town called the Red Box that was important to her growing up, and that translated into a diner fixation since she was on the road all the time, plus the Red Box becomes one of the community settings in the series. I needed a picture of a great diner, and I found one, but while I was looking for that one, I tripped over the Valentine Diners:

“Valentine Diners began their nearly forty-year career in Wichita, Kansas–an idea born of the Great Depression. They were constructed as eight-to-ten-seat diners that one or two people could operate. If you were good at it–if you served good food at a fair price and kept your customers happy–you could make a successful business of a Valentine. In an industry where nearly all major diner manufacturers were on the East Coast, the Kansas creation managed to ship its little pre-fabs all across the country. Valentines could be found along major highways to attract travelers, in industrial areas to attract workers, and in small towns where they might be one of the only (if not the only) restaurants available.”
From “History of Valentine Diners” on the Kansas State Historical Site.

I fell in love with the Valentine Diners. They were such a brilliant idea: Mass produce a small diner that could be loaded on a flat bed truck, ship it to buyers on a time purchase plan, and if they didn’t pay, back the truck up and repossess the whole thing. No risk for the company and a chance at a solid business in a lot of little Midwest towns. They came in several styles including the Big Chef and the Little Chef, and there are still some in operation although they’re disappearing fast. They were constructed of heavy duty materials, so the ones still in existence can be restored, which is what Vince did.

See, there was this Big Chef diner in Kansas where he worked when he was in high school and where he and his grandmother used to eat, and it closed because of a fire. On his way back from his grandmother’s funeral he saw the diner had been damaged, called the owner and arranged to haul it away for free, and took it with him when he moved to Ohio for his new job. Here’s a drawing of Vince’s Big Chef diner before the fire:

There he had it put onto a cement foundation that raised it above the major flood level, tore out the part damaged by the fire, had the place replumbed and rewired, put in some panels where there used to be windows for privacy, and reconfigured the floor plan with a lot of elbow grease and glass block.

And now this is the Big Chef Vince lives in:

This is the floor plan Before Vince . . .

. . . and After Vince:

I’m not sure what the diner says about Vince yet. Well, it says he loved his grandma, and he has a deeply buried sentimental streak, and he’s open-minded about living spaces, but I’ll have to wait and see what emerges as I write the books to truly understand how it reflects his character. I never really know for sure what anything means until the book is completely done.

But I do know this: there are three things Liz can’t resist–quirky T-shirts, pearls, and old diners–and when she sees Vince’s home for the first time, in the moonlight after several drinks, she has a genuine Pemberley moment.

I’m loving this book. And Valentine diners. Also, Vince rocks.

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119 Comments to 'Vince’s Place'

On April 10, 2010 at 9:18 am lee said...

That is cool about the Valentine Diners. With (typical) east coast arrogance, I had assumed most diners came from Worcester, Massachusetts. Probably because I had read all the local Worcester propaganda and believed it. I am delighted someone thought about how to propagate a business opportunity before there were franchises.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:04 pm Jenny said...

Most of them did from MA. But the Valentines were all over Kansas and neighboring states. I do have a yen for one now, but I’m restricting myself to finding pictures of them on the net.

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On April 10, 2010 at 9:24 am Naked Under My Clothes said...

I always expect–and receive–entertainment here. I often learn stuff, usually about writing. But this one is the coolest! Diner lore AND writing!

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On April 10, 2010 at 9:39 am Kathleen said...

OMG. I want to live in a diner. That really is the BHE: best house ever.

(Though really, for me the house I grew up in is the BHE. I suppose a lot of us probably feel that way.)

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:14 am Lora said...

COOLNESS!!! Vince sounds hot, gotta say.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:22 am RfP said...

That’s brilliant. Vince is a Man of Parts. Now I’m expecting all sorts of hidden depths and a giant creative streak; not what I’d imagined from the first excerpt you posted. I love it when the reader gets to gradually discover the characters just as the characters discover each other.

By the way, Vince’s Floor Plan reminds me of several solar houses that I toured recently. The docent said that the one-room-wide floor plan is not only straightforward to build and maintain (e.g. no extra folds in the roof to develop leaks), but it also minimizes energy consumption and wasted space and maximizes air flow (which also makes the space easy to heat and cool).

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:31 am RfP said...

Just found a gallery of solar houses from the Solar Decathlon in Washington DC. A number of them are laid out shotgun-style like Vince’s diner.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:03 pm Jenny said...

The great thing about the shotgun plan is that you don’t waste any space on hallways. I moved into one of the worst designed houses I’ve ever seen and I swear, no exaggeration, a quarter of the floor plan was hallway. I turned one into my office, another into a study with a daybed that has since become “Krissie’s room,” another into a workroom, one into a library (narrow but still full of books) and absorbed another into the new kitchen. It was insane.
Meanwhile, the shotgun uses every inch of floor space for living.

One of my fave house books is The Not So Big House. It’s amazing what that woman does with space.

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On April 11, 2010 at 1:18 am Skye said...

I adore those books and, when I was almost seriously considering building my own home, was going to supply some architect with those books and say “here. do this.” Susanka rocks.

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On April 12, 2010 at 10:22 pm toni said...

Now I have to go get that book. I originally thought I would major in architecture when I first went to college. Then discovered there is this nasty requirement for advanced math so, you know, the walls will hold up the other roof or, God help me, the additional floors. But I keep collecting architecture books because one day, I might get struck with the math gene. Hey, people get struck by lightning. It could happen.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:22 am Kate G said...

It’s so enlightening hearing about the your process. The stuff you come across amazes me, and then you take it and turn it into something uniquely Crusie. So much FUN.

I want a diner now too!

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:30 am Eva said...

Well, considering that there’s a BIG CHEF still on the front, I’m thinking he’s not so short on the ego.

I have three Vince’s in my family. Good name. It means prevailing/conquering.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:00 pm Jenny said...

Vince’s ego is fine. I think he left the Big Chef on it because that’s the way it was when he ate there with his grandma, but yeah, living up to the name wouldn’t bother him at all.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:45 am Sure thing said...

Well. Isn’t this interesting. When I was in my teens I wanted to convert a normal bus and live in it. I did not want a mobile home/caravan set up – those were too lumbering.
Then I read Arthur Ransome and wanted a houseboat for a while. Hmm. Traveling theme? Need to think on this and hey! Blog idea – Thanks, Jenny!

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:10 am Dee said...

People write to you about the houses? Seriously, who does that? I love the houses, and that diner is wonderful. Regarding the Worcester diners, that’s where the typical shiny chrome types originated (I grew up a half-hour from Worcester) and there are still many to be found in the area. I love them. They have personality.

Speaking as someone who lives in a rural area in which spring is more commonly referred to as “mud season,” I beg of you, don’t hate the winch. We love the winch. We thank God for the Bobs of the world and their handy dandy winches. Bless you, Bob.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:58 pm Jenny said...

Honey, people write to me about everything. I had one woman write to tell me that having Min be overweight and not condemning it was contributing to animal abuse. I forget how she got there, but she was very serious. I had another woman write to tell me that I should have younger twenty-something heroines because women getting pregnant in their thirties was a very bad idea. I had another woman write to me after Crazy for You saying “The least you could have done is research public school teaching.” I was a public school teacher for fifteen years. You have to just smile and nod and keep moving. There’s always going to be something.

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On April 11, 2010 at 1:45 pm McB said...

I don’t remember any of your heroines becoming pregnant, so she was making assumptions that you have to marry young and procreate in order to live HEA. Huh. I guess I’m pretty miserable then. Who knew?

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On April 11, 2010 at 2:52 pm Jenny said...

Yeah, that’s where she lost me, too.
A lot of readers make assumptions that you can’t do anything about. Like the woman who couldn’t enjoy Anyone But You because Alex was going to leave Nina when she turned fifty. No, I don’t know why. He’d be turning forty. Mid-life crisis?

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On April 11, 2010 at 8:22 pm Dee said...

I don’t even know what to say to that. Most days, it’s an effort for me to comment on a blog (let’s just say I’m extremely introverted), much less actually sit down and write a letter to someone. I can’t imagine going to that much trouble to comment on something that doesn’t exist outside of our collective imagination. I’m dumbfounded.

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On April 11, 2010 at 8:34 pm Jenny said...

Well, people have issues. The one who wrote about the difficulty thirty-something women have conceiving was not amusing to my thirty-something daughter. She was ready to fire off a reply. I said, “Don’t poke the crazy person.” She said, “She poked me first.” Well, yes, but now we’ll leave her alone.

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On April 11, 2010 at 9:11 pm Courtney said...

Sometimes it’s fun to poke the crazy person. I work retail, I know crazy. And they always poke first. You’ve just gotta watch for-and avoid-the point where they turn from amusingly crazy to flat-out crazy-crazy. One of my employees amused himself this afternoon by humoring the crazy person. I offered to pop the popcorn (for everybody else) for when she turned, but, lucky for him, she took her crazy and went home. Sometimes it’s better that way.

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On April 12, 2010 at 12:25 am Dee said...

Oh, I definitely know _that_ feeling, Courtney. I used to work at a drugstore down the street from an outpatient psychiatric clinic. So, you know, that was fun. When I left there for what I thought would be greener pastures as a court clerk, it only got better. It became my job to receive, open, and file the First Justice’s mail. We had running files on some people. It only got really scary when those people showed up to hand me their mail in person. That was usually when I really wished we’d had metal detectors at that court. I think any job where dealing with the public is involved just invites the crazy.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:16 am Beki said...

Personally, I just want a good RV for rambling around. Though I’d definitely ramble into one of those diners should I come across it! How fascinating is that? And it’s definitely making me love Vince.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:56 pm Jenny said...

Liz gets a very small RV in the second book. So stay tuned. We’ve been gone all day and one of the things we did was go to look at this particular RV; the RV place didn’t have the one I picked out for Liz but had a very similar one, and the kids fell in love with it. If we ever get rich, we’re buying one. It’s the size of a regular van so Liz could drive it anywhere but it has the fridge and microwave and bed and table, so it could easily be her home, too. Loved it.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:06 pm toni said...

Oh, a friend of mine, Cajun Kitty, had one of those. She drove it down during Katrina (she is an RN) and volunteered here for a while. We loved her van–it had everything, even a bathroom, but it fit in a regular parking spot. (Barely, but still.) She had an office set up in there and I wanted it, just so I could park it somewhere and hide from the kids for a while, so I’d get some writing done.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:54 am sheagal said...

Is it weird that I am still fixated on the winch? I love a guy who’s always prepared. Perhaps it’s a latent boy scout thing.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:56 am Eva said...

Winches are totally hot, I agree.

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On April 10, 2010 at 12:05 pm Sierra said...

This makes me think of a book that I loved when I was growing up, The Trolley Car Family, just because of Vince’s home. In the book, the father is a trolley car conductor and gets laid off due to buses coming into play, so they pack up the things that they absolutely need and all ride the trolley car to the end of the line where there’s a gorgeous plot of land they picnicked at.

The turn the trolley car into a home, use the creek nearby for keeping the milk cool, and all of the kids pitch in. It’s like camping, only better. And because it’s the 40′s or 50′s, it’s sweet and heartwarming and fun instead of being about abject poverty. They even included a diagram of how they changed the trolley car around. I still love the book, and highly recommend it.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:18 pm Jennifer said...

Thanks for the recommendation, I’m always looking for books like this for my daughter. She likes sweet and peaceful, not dramatic or pushing adult themes, and that can be hard to find these days.

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On April 10, 2010 at 12:53 pm Shiloh said...

I love houses too. I could drive/walk/bike around all day and just look at house. They have so much character (or a distinct lack in character) that says so much about the people who live in them.

I’ve lived in the western united states my whole life and a diner here is basically just Denny’s. What a shame they don’t still have Valentine Diners, I think it could offer some great opportunities in this economy, just like it did back then.

Vince and his house sound yummy. I’m so excited to spend more than one book with him and Liz and the rest of the characters. You’re going to spoil us with a series, we may never be the same :D

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On April 10, 2010 at 12:55 pm R. said...

It’s in the woods, it’s on a river. There’s something great to look at and something great to listen to. Since I live with someone who would object to a cardboard box, the diner idea is really good. A small cabin would work, too. And a winch. I want a winch. I want a Jeep so I can have a winch. I want a dirt road so I’ll need a Jeep.

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On April 10, 2010 at 1:21 pm colognegrrl said...

I appreciate it when I know how people live because it says so much about their personality. Whereas I hate it when an author describes in great length how the heroine (mostly it’s the woman) is dressed because in most cases, it has nothing to do with the story, it just shows what style the author prefers in fashion.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:52 pm Jenny said...

I think clothes are important because the choice says a lot about the character, but it has to be more of a significant detail than a full description of everything she wears. Mab’s coat and hat in Wild Ride were crucial. Whatever she wore underneath, not so much. When she switched to Delpha’s cape, that was important. What she wore underneath, not so much. Andie’s long skirts and loathing of jackets is important in Maybe This Time; Alice’s rejection of the flounced skirt she later accepts and her embrace of the stockings Andie gets her say a lot more about her relationship with Andie than her eight-year-old fashion sense.

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On April 11, 2010 at 11:05 am colognegrrl said...

Yes, I can definitely see that and I’ve used things like that myself if it is of importance. Also, you can imagine how uncomfortable a man must feel if he wears a suit for the first time when he is used to jeans and sweatshirts. But who wants to know what the heroine wore every time she leaves the house? A lot of novels try to show us this way how beautiful she is, but I think it’s rather boring. Also, I dislike the constant mentioning of brand names (one has to be careful with that, I think SEP once confused a Maserati with a Mitsubishi). So, clothes only if it means something symbolic for the story. Otherwise, I rather buy an InStyle copy and look at the pictures.

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On April 11, 2010 at 12:02 pm Jenny said...

I agree, really. I’m trying to think if I’ve ever used brand names. I think somebody had an iPhone. I’ve used Mac a lot because of course any heroine of mine would have a Mac. I think I’ve only used brands when the character would mention brands, but I can’t be sure. I definitely hit Diet Coke and Krispy Kremes.
Really, I think as long as you stick to stuff that the character would think or say, you’re covered. I think most of those long descriptions are done in omniscient POV which in a lot of cases is a break from the third limited the rest of the story is done in.

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On April 11, 2010 at 12:58 pm Clever Cherry aka Judy Long said...

Don’t forget Dove bars – everytime I reread WTT I have to have lemonaide & Dove bars!

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On April 10, 2010 at 1:23 pm Libby said...

http://motherjones.com/media/1997/05/john-irving

In this article’s comments, Nina asks, “what is it about john Irving and Bears??”

So you are in good company!

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On April 10, 2010 at 2:27 pm Merry the CB said...

I love it when you write about houses! Really.
Before I bought a house, I used to fantasize about what sort of house I wanted. The house in The Cinderella Deal was a major influence in this fantasy. Also Quinn’s shopping experience, encountering a depressing series of low-end pokey houses, was a good warning of what the house-buying experience was like.
See? Fantasy /and/ helpful documentation both. Please write lots more about houses :)

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:49 pm Jenny said...

I lived in Quinn’s house when I lived in German Village. Very run down little Victorian with a loose stair rail and the same bathroom. If I’d had the money to fix it up, it would have been a gem. As it was, not so much.

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On April 11, 2010 at 1:47 pm McB said...

Was it also part of you fantasy to have 15 people you’ve never met show up at your house to celebrate the summer solstice?

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On April 11, 2010 at 1:47 pm McB said...

*sigh* the above was a question for Merry. Unless Jenny has had similar fantasies?

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On April 11, 2010 at 2:19 pm Merry the CB said...

Actually, my fantasy was thinking more along the lines of Hugh Jackman. But the reality of having a bunch of crazed imaginary Internet buddies show up was great fun :)

At least, until some of the group had to leave, and the rest lined up to sing “So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen good-bye.” The neighbors are still looking at me funny ;)

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On April 10, 2010 at 2:36 pm Clever Cherry aka Judy Long said...

I would definitely make fun of Bob for the wench – just because. Secretly though I love wenches ever since I saw my first one on that old hilarious movie -The Gods Must Be Crazy. Also – I love men who are handy & let’s face it – wenches are handy.
As for Vince’s diner house, I think this is something that I love in theory & would hate in practice. I mean – wouldn’t an old diner smell like grease or food? I love the houses in your books. I specially like that most of the action in WTT is centered around what becomes Sophie’s house and Phineas bookstore / apartment.
I don’t like subdivision houses that all look similar, though. Now I have a theme song to go with that dislike – “little houses on the hillside, little houses made of ticky tacky, little houses on the hillside and they all look just the same…” (Theme song for Weeds!)

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:37 pm Merry the CB said...

make fun of Bob for the wench
Bob has a wench? Was that a typo or is this some hitherto long-kept secret now come out in the open? Makes for a good rumor, anyway.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:42 pm Jenny said...

Bob’s been with the same wench for eighteen years. Well, not a wench, but definitely a Deb.

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On April 11, 2010 at 12:02 am Merry the CB said...

I always thought a wench was a woman who wore a laced-up bodice and served beer to guys who wore lederhosen. Someone who puts up with you for eighteen years, I agree, is not a wench. More like a gift.

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On April 11, 2010 at 12:30 am Jenny said...

I’m almost positive Bob has never worn lederhosen.
The beer, however . . .

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:48 pm Jenny said...

Winch not wench. Although Vince has had a few wenches, too.
The diner wouldn’t smell like grease because the grill would be scraped down and wiped off every night (although never scrubbed, that’s sacrilege). As far as smelling like food, that part would be good.

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On April 11, 2010 at 11:19 am Shiloh said...

Is anyone else picturing Bob in lederhosen? :)

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On April 10, 2010 at 3:45 pm Sharon said...

My sister-in-law has always been interested in houses–exterior and interior. She was thrilled to become a docent in a Frank L. Wright home in Ohio. She and her husband were even allowed to spend the night in the home. Her vacation photos always include unusual houses she has seen. I read that Agatha Christie adored houses and at one time owned 5 or 6. When I was growing up, I always wondered if my personality and tastes would change if I lived in another house!

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On April 10, 2010 at 5:29 pm Deborah Blake said...

I love the houses too. And the diner/house sounds fabulous! I can’t wait to read these books.
I looked for a year for my first house I would buy by myself (not with a husband-creature). It had to be just right if I was going to invest every penny I had–and a lot I didn’t. Eight years later, I’m still here, in a 110 year old farmhouse that was added onto piecemeal, where not one wall is straight or floor is even. I had to put a rug under my desk chair with the wheels on it, because I kept sliding in the corner. [And nobody puts Baby in the corner, at least not while she's typing.]
What this house says about me, I dread to think. But I love it, crooked bits and all.
Houses are important. Way more important than bears :-)

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On April 11, 2010 at 1:01 pm Clever Cherry aka Judy Long said...

those are the best kind of houses!

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On April 11, 2010 at 3:25 pm Merry the CB said...

I agree. Houses are like relationships — if you’re going to invest so much in it, you should go for something you love. It wasn’t until I actually bought a house that I fully appreciated the term housewife.

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On April 10, 2010 at 5:32 pm Mariah said...

As soon as I saw the picture, I also immediately thought ecohome (Vince positioned it south facing and planted some deciduous trees to block out the summer sun). And it’s recycled! It’s the sort of house that belongs to someone who thinks out of the box and wants to leave things a little better than he found them. It’s environmentalism with a sense of humor.
Are there are solar panels on the roof, too? I bet the electric company sends *him* a check every month. Smart guy. Or maybe he’s off the grid…

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On April 10, 2010 at 5:46 pm colognegrrl said...

I suppose Vince would have to decide between the solar panels and the trees because a shaded roof means a bad investment in solar energy.

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On April 10, 2010 at 7:00 pm Shiloh said...

Solar panels don’t have to go on the roof.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:46 pm Jenny said...

Vince put it facing the river, that that’s not south. It’s southwest. If you look at a map of Ohio, the river veers northwest as it nears Cincinnati.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:53 pm Jenny said...

He probably broke the bank on the trucking fees and the concrete foundation which would have had to be significant to lift the diner above the flood plane. So he’s not going to have solar panels. Yet. If I keep writing the books, who knows what he’ll end up with?

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:13 pm toni said...

okay, just because this cracks me up, my husband looked into getting solar panels for our house. There is (currently) a big tax break on owning them, and a big state refund, so that if you spent roughly $40K on the things, the federal and state governments would end up giving you back all but about $8K. (YMMV.) And it was supposed to save us $80 / month on our electricity bill. So… we were supposed to spend $40K, with the hope that the federal gov’t and state gov’t actually still had money left to give back, so that we could save $80 bucks a month. I told him I’d turn off the A/C first, save the $80 / month and I’d be happy to pocket the $40K for my troubles. He didn’t seem to see the fun in that.

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On April 11, 2010 at 12:03 am Merry the CB said...

My mother put solar panels on her roof and an electric plug-in car in her garage. No electricity bill, plus she never knew what the cost of gas was. Perfect system, until GM made her give the car back :(

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On April 11, 2010 at 1:05 pm Diane (TT) said...

Boo on killing the electric car!
$8,000 to save $80/ month is paid off in about 8 years, then it’s pure profit from there (about $1000/year)- that’s a pretty good deal! But turning of the A/C is also a good idea – especially if the utility lets you sell back the product of your panels.

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On April 13, 2010 at 2:53 am Kira said...

I live in a sunny Mediterranean country where everyone has solar panels for heating the water. It costs nowhere near $40k, more like $2K, and yes, it does save money. But not on rainy days. If it’s cloudy or rainy, there’s not enough sun to heat the water. On the whole, it’s a good thing, but a magic bullet it ain’t.

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On April 10, 2010 at 5:59 pm Mary Stella said...

I think I’m surprised that people write to you about houses, too. Bet nobody writes to historical romance authors and says, “About those castles . . .”

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On April 11, 2010 at 7:27 pm Meredith B. said...

I wonder if anybody has ever written to Barbara (Mertz) Michaels to ask about her houses? Damn, can that woman write a haunted house. I know that people commented / complained about Zilpha Keatley Snyder’s houses, haunted and otherwise, so much so that she finally threw up her hands, and said Fine– One last book about a house, and then I’ll never touch the subject again. So she wrote The Treasures of Weatherby, in which the house might actually be the protagonist. I suppose we’ll have to wait to see if she keeps her promise, but I for one hope she breaks it as soon as possible.

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On April 10, 2010 at 6:55 pm Tereasa Bellew said...

I think houses can be very important to the story. The house Quinn bought helped define her character and the independence. Very creepy of Bill to break in and even then the house played its part by showing his totally weird perception that they’d be together even if he had to move in to the house and build on.

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On April 10, 2010 at 7:09 pm Emily said...

I always love the houses in your books. I love in “Getting Rid of Bradley” that Lucy admits that the main reason she married Bradley was to get the house. I love how Quinn’s play for independence takes form in buying a beautiful, run-down house, and that Bill tries to block her by screwing up the purchase. And I love in “Cinderella Deal” how the house is a great expression of Daisy’s personality and how it’s evolving – she makes it into a quirky and personal work of art that’s more polished than her old apartment, but still very much her, and it says a lot about Linc that he buys a house that he wouldn’t have otherwise given a second glance to, and paints it yellow and blue and white because Chickie says Daisy will like it.

I guess I like the houses because I’m a house girl myself. What I wear doesn’t express who I am so much – it’s practical and comfortable, but I don’t really know what I’m doing with it when it comes to making a statement. But my house, in all its chaotic glory, is me.

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On April 10, 2010 at 7:18 pm robena grant said...

This is wonderful. I love your houses. All of them.

In Agnes and the Hitman the heroine started out in the maids room and then ended up in the either the attic or the third floor. I kept thinking of chakras and moving and growing through them from the base chakra at the end of the spine (earth, survival, self-preservation, etc.) then she reaches true understanding at the brow chakra (the third eye or center of the forehead) with soul realization, wisdom, peace of mind, etc. Of course the crown chakra is Nirvana, and much as I thought Agnes grew emotionally in that story, I wasn’t quite sure she’d reached that state. ; )

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:45 pm Jenny said...

She started on the first floor, then to the second, and then up to the attic which she’d been saving for when her fiance moved in. Instead, Shane moved in.

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On April 10, 2010 at 7:49 pm inkgrrl said...

Winches rock. I love all the metaphors and other goodies you put in your books – so much fun!

Jenny, have you played The Sims? House/floor plan designing and decorating to your heart’s content.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:44 pm Jenny said...

No. It’s bad enough that I have a treehouse in Club Penguin to play with Sweetness and Light and I’m obsessive about decorating it.

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On April 11, 2010 at 3:16 pm inkgrrl said...

Ok yeah, you pretty much get your e-fix that way. Better to avoid the world of The Sims or your next book and your next book after that will never get writtten.

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On April 11, 2010 at 3:17 pm inkgrrl said...

Minus the extra “t” in that last word LOL.

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On April 10, 2010 at 8:17 pm KellyJ said...

I have not yet bought the house of my heart, and I love living vicariously through your heroine’s as they find the house that’s meant for them. Please, keep writing about the houses.

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On April 10, 2010 at 9:44 pm GatorPerson said...

1. What are all the little squares?
2. I DREAM about “my” houses. Serially. One of the latest is a duplex with one side for show and the other for living in. Split personality? The other dream has a fixer upper house whose living room is a concert hall with a balcony dangerously tilting down. But, hey, it’s all in color!

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:43 pm Jenny said...

Little squares are glass brick. Much tidier than dry wall and let light through. Terrible for insulation, though.

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On April 10, 2010 at 10:34 pm JulieB said...

*cough* spoiler much? MTT isn’t even published. _I_ know how it ends, but…

and when the long arm of the law fails her at the end, she finishes him off with the long arm of the porch rail.

This reminds me of Eve, metaphoircally beating the snot out of an evil Adam with her rib. Did you write that in the book, or am I just really tired?

Big Chef. Heh. Kinda like “Big Chief.” Yes. Vince is hot.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:49 pm RfP said...

“Vince is hot.”

There really is something compelling about a character with this house. I’m not a house girl in a general sense. No house, no yard, no dog… don’t have so much as a potted plant. But then you gave Vince a house that’s not just a set of obligations but a quirky work of creativity that he’s curator of, and suddenly it got my attention.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:07 pm SueG said...

I find the houses in your books an integral part of the personality of the characters. They are important with a capital I. Metaphor or not, where someone “makes their home” is an important part of who they are. Maybe I should rephrase that, HOW someone “makes their home”; it doesn’t necessarily have to be THE dream house, a character can make anywhere “their” home.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:36 pm Jennifer said...

Love this peek at Vince and his house. Thank you!

Also, thank you for writing about the houses. It was reading your books that made me look around my own house and realize that over the years all my things had slowly been packed away and the rooms filled with my husband’s art and furniture. Ever since Agnes and the Hitman, I’ve been slowly reclaiming space, and now I’m happier with my house- and my husband. Owe you big time for that.

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On April 10, 2010 at 11:44 pm Jenny said...

Oh, you’re welcome.
And if you need more stuff, I have plenty.

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On April 11, 2010 at 12:41 am Geek Mom said...

I love your houses in all of your stories. I think I’m a house girl too. I used to love watching a show on HGTV where they showed all the odd places that people turned into house. My two favorite were an old theater where the main seating turned into a great room and it had a balcony that went into each room above it and then there was an old bank so the couple had a large vault in the basement. I think they kept the large door for show but then turned the inside into a womans dressing room or something like that.

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On April 11, 2010 at 5:41 am Ingrid said...

What’s annoying about your houses is the moving in at the speed of lightning. Both Quinn and Nell seem to do it in an afternoon. They find the house, pack, unpack and voilà, a home. No fuss, no cleaning, not even tired. And Daisy in the Cinderella Deal redoes a whole house in eight days. I can’t even tidy a room in that time. But I’ve since learned that you can’t either, Jenny, so I’ve come to accept that that is the fantasy element of your books.

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On April 11, 2010 at 8:51 am Sure thing said...

“I can’t even tidy a room in that time.”

Me too, I finally decided to blog about it just to get my secret out into the open!

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On April 11, 2010 at 9:04 am Jenny said...

It’s been too long since The Cinderella Deal, but I know Quinn was moving from a one bedroom apartment to a house and she left almost all the furniture with Bill, so as I remember it–could be wrong, she moved books and clothes (in garbage bags, maybe?) and one piece of furniture that belonged to the family? I can’t remember that one really well, either, but I know she was escaping and she moved it all into her mom’s house and then Nick helped her shift it to her house. I’ll have to go back and look to be sure. But all three of those women were moving from small apartments, so there wasn’t that much stuff. I’ve done that in a day, no problem. I always take forever because I have sixty years of stuff to go through and walls to paint, and I move from a house to a house. That usually takes me two days, or at least that’s what it took me when I moved into the house that I gave Quinn, but I was moving from another house I’d lived in for twenty years and raised my daughter in, so the amount of stuff was hair-raising. Quinn’s just been living with Bill and not for that long. Back when I was moving from apartment to apartment, one day to do everything was a piece of cake. Didn’t have that much stuff. Didn’t Nell move from a furnished apartment to a furnished apartment? Damn, I cannot remember these books.

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On April 11, 2010 at 10:33 am Kathleen said...

Nell did not live or rent furnished apartments- because otherwise Suze wouldn’t have kept giving her beds.

She had help from Jase, Lu, Suze, and Margie, too, and all the unpacking wasn’t done in a day. Just the move itself, which I think is reasonable. I’ve done it in a day for apartments, but unpacking takes me FOREVER. Like, MONTHS.

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On April 11, 2010 at 11:59 am Jenny said...

See, you know this stuff better than I do.

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On April 11, 2010 at 12:31 pm Kathleen said...

LOL, I reread it last month, so it’s still fresh in my mind.

It’s really a terrific book. I first read it while I was in a long-term relationship that began when I was 17. I identified with Suze before she had thoughts of leaving Jack. Then I started to have trouble in my relationship, and I became Suze AFTER she had thoughts of leaving Jack. Now we’ve broken up after 9 years together, and I’m like Nell.

I figure just as long as I never become Margie, I’m doing just fine.

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On April 11, 2010 at 7:11 pm Ingrid said...

I have no problem with moving in one day, but doing it on the same day that you find the house, that’s quick. And wouldn’t you want to give the house a thorough clean first, while it’s empty? You don’t have to paint first, though usually you need to, but surely you don’t want to move into someone else’s dirt. My own dirt I can live with, but I want to start off with a clean house.
It is true that both Quinn and Nell seem to have an unnaturally small amount of clutter for women in their thirties and forties. Some more fantasy to my mind!

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On April 11, 2010 at 8:32 pm Jenny said...

They moved the same day? That doesn’t seem possible.
As for would I like to give the house a thorough clean first, no. I don’t want to give anything a thorough clean.

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On April 12, 2010 at 12:27 am Kathleen said...

Nell moved in the day after she found the apartment. There’s no mention of hired movers, just the kids and the friends, so all they really had to do was rent a truck, which should be possible at the last minute.

I’ve always cleaned my apartments after I moved in. You can clean everything except the floors that way, and before the move there’s generally no time and people are usually still living in the apartment anyway.

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On April 12, 2010 at 10:17 am Rosa said...

It takes me months to move all the way in, but I’m not like Nell – Nell seems like a move-in-a-day type.

And Quinn didn’t have any stuff because she didn’t have a self yet, really.

A house with hardwood floors, the cleaning is just dust/sweep/mop – we moved into a big, two-story house but it doesn’t have any soft surfaces so it only took about an hour to clean when it was empty before we moved our stuff in.

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On April 11, 2010 at 8:55 am Sure thing said...

Hey, when did the preview button go amiss?

I loved the “wenches” bit. Highly entertaining. Forgive me if I’m sounding like I’m mentioning the b-word a lot because sometimes when I start something new, I talk about it all the time. I was very “precious” about going vegetarian a few years ago. Thankfully it didn’t last long – the constant talking about it went first and the vegetarianism followed a month later!

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On April 11, 2010 at 9:06 am Jenny said...

It broke when we did the update to the blog after we screwed it up with the contest. We did some reprogramming and the preview button went wonky. We’re looking into it now, trying to find out if it’s an easy fix or if it’s going to cost a lot of tech time which is not cheap, in which case, it’s going to disappear.

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On April 11, 2010 at 2:01 pm McB said...

The wenches comment is pretty funny.

Vincent’s place is pretty clever, but it’s not giving me any desire to live in a diner. I like houses with rooms. Rooms give you someplace else to go when you need a little personal space. Of course, if Vince lives alone that might not be an issue. But I have to think one big room would be tricky to heat. There’s a good reason old house have small rooms that can be closed off. Also, without some boundaries, my junk would just flow through the whole danged place and there would be no place to move it to if I needed a presentable for company room or two. I love the idea of turning the hallways into rooms. It’s the best of both worlds kind of thing.

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On April 11, 2010 at 3:03 pm Jenny said...

If you go by the diagram and figure the standard counter is 24″, the depth of that diner is 9′ and the length is 32′. I’ll have to look at the rest of it now to see how big all those spaces are–if his bedroom is six foot wide, the drawing of the bed is too big–but I don’t think it would be that tough to heat. It’s under 300 sq ft. If he put in a fireplace, he could probably do it with that. Hmmm. May have to reconfigure Vince’s place.

Hmmm. A queen-size bed is eighty inches long and nine foot is 108″. So that would give him 24″ of floor space at the foot of the bed. That’s enough. And yes, he lives alone. He likes it that way.

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On April 11, 2010 at 3:21 pm Carol Anne said...

There are fireplaces which one puts on an outside wall, giving one an indoor fireplace and an outside fireplace on a deck or patio.

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On April 11, 2010 at 4:49 pm Jenny said...

Vince has been there six months. He has mud.
And he’d probably put in a propane fireplace. I just don’t know where.

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On April 11, 2010 at 9:13 pm Dee said...

Regarding heating, maybe a pellet stove? They come relatively small and can be vented directly to the exterior of the building almost like a dryer. Just a suggestion. :)

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On April 12, 2010 at 2:07 am Jenny said...

I think a propane fireplace.

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On April 12, 2010 at 3:07 pm Merry the CB said...

For some reason, I originally misread this as a ‘profane’ fireplace.Not sure I want to know what would cause a fireplace to swear.

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On April 12, 2010 at 3:37 pm Jenny said...

Living with Vince, probably.

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On April 11, 2010 at 8:54 pm McB said...

Maybe move the counter to the right more so the bathroom can be closer. Sorry, it bothers me that the kitchen is between the bed and the bath. Keep the kitchen as in the original plan and then there’s room for the bahroom near the bedroom. Unless putting the kitchen in the middle is integral to the plot.

Listen to me, rearranging your floorplan. Don’t mind me. I’ll just go over there and learn to mind my own business.

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On April 12, 2010 at 2:10 am Jenny said...

Sure you will, McB.
The bathroom is where the original bathroom was. The kitchen is where the original kitchen was. After many renovations, I know this to be true: leave the plumbing where it is and save yourself a fortune.

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On April 12, 2010 at 3:44 am colognegrrl said...

I think with a house this size, you can live with the distance between bed and bathroom. When we moved into our first house, the bedrooms were upstairs while the bathroom was downstairs next to the kitchen. As I was pregnant at the time, we changed that a.s.a.p. But Vince’s place… I think that the way from my dining room to the guest bathroom is longer than crossing his house from one end to the other.
Also true: leave the plumbing where it is and save yourself a lot of trouble with craftsmen and construction workers.

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On April 11, 2010 at 5:54 pm Shannan said...

Roflmao over the Pemberley moment. I LOVE the Valentine diner/house, and I will now forever associate Liz with Elizabeth Bennett. I cannot wait for these books.

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On April 11, 2010 at 8:25 pm Denisetwin said...

OOOO! I love your quirky houses that match the heroine/hero and this one sounds perfect as well!

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On April 11, 2010 at 10:10 pm Ginny said...

Sorry about the crazy person pushing your daughter’s buttons on thirty somethings having babies. I had mine at 36 and 37. People would *gasp* and say when my youngest was in Kindergarten I would be 40!!! Oh lord. I said “Nope. I’ll be 42.” My hair is three parts gray…one swath for each kid and one for my Mom who is making me nuts at 84! You see she had me when she was 33! I wish I had more energy but I definitely have more money for toys! Tell Mollie to smile really really big when they stay stupid stuff. And twitch just a little. Works for me.

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On April 11, 2010 at 11:16 pm helen said...

Jenny, I’m late to this party but while i LOVE the Big Chef, the history, your tweaks etcetera, I’m having trouble envisioning where the guy TV area/possible seating for more than one person is. Is it in the small glass-sided room opposite the honkin’ big shower?

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On April 12, 2010 at 1:57 am Jenny said...

I changed the floor plan. Look in the next revised post. He now has a couch. Which he would never call a snuggle couch. I don’t know what Bob was thinking.

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On April 11, 2010 at 11:31 pm Thea said...

The Not So Big House, yes! A fav. I always pay attention to your book houses. Sounds as if you know symbolism for the characters before the space is constructed/written. Do Insight buzzes about the matchup of house and character ever come later?

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On April 12, 2010 at 1:56 am Jenny said...

They usually come later. In Maybe This Time, I already knew the house because Carter and Alice’s great-great-great-grandpa had had it shipped over from England; it’s Bly. But it’s alien territory, the whole point of MTT is that Andie has to get the kids out of that house and into a place where they can start a new, safe life. So Archer House is just a tomb she has to resurrect the children from. I know Liz is getting an RV in the second book, a tiny little thing, and that’s big symbolism, but I don’t know anything else about it. The houses are like everything else. They just show up and say, “Hi,” and I write them in and figure them out later.

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On April 12, 2010 at 1:41 am Micki said...

Love the houses! They really do say a lot about a person (although, if I really believed that, why does my house look the way it does? LOL!). I’ve been reading a lot of house books lately, and there was a really good one about a person’s psychology and the houses s/he loves. “House as a Mirror of Self: Exploring the Deeper Meaning of Home” was the book.

(-: Love Susan Saranska (Sara Susanska?)’s book, too.

And I love the big-smile, little-twitch approach to replying to nosy people (-:.

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On April 12, 2010 at 1:48 am Jenny said...

Oooh, I have that Mirror of Self book. Read it ages ago, but I remember liking it a lot. Well, I would.

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On April 12, 2010 at 5:45 am Ingrid said...

I must be more deeply rooted in tradition than I thought. Dutchwomen have been known for centuries for being houseproud, but I thought I had wandered further from the path of righteousness than others of my generation, as witnessed by the pigsty I live in. But obviously some things are deeply ingrained. I have always taken as gospel that if you were moving from rented accommodation to rented accomodation, you would pay double rent for at least one month. Many people take two months or more, if they want to make a lot of changes or cannot afford the time off work. I just cannot imagine moving in the day after the previous occupants moved out. A friend of mine has even moved into het third new-built house. She says it feels so much cleaner than a house other people have lived in before. My own apartment dates from the 19th century, so I don’t have that phobia, but the place was very off-putting when I first saw it, with nicotine staining the walls and ceilings and the kitchen greasy. I would have hated to just move in without cleaning and whitewashing first. and that took a while.

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On April 12, 2010 at 9:34 am Jenny said...

My problem is that I don’t SEE it. If somebody points it out to me, or I have company coming and suddenly I’m seeing the place through their eyes, but I can live in incredible squalor as long as my laptop works. So a lot of that is just me projecting. But two months, nope. Even when I’ve bought houses, I’m in as soon as the closing month is up.

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On April 12, 2010 at 10:28 am Tori said...

I love, love, love the Big Chef! As far as the people with the houses. Ridiculous. Everyone knows houses are important. And, I’m sure that I don’t have to tell you this but, according to my therapist at least, in dreams your house represents you or at least how you perceive yourself.

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On April 12, 2010 at 2:02 pm Marta said...

I started drawing floor plans when I was 8. I just love houses. Unfortunately, the math gene skipped me, so it was never a career option.

Instead of a fireplace, how about a wood stove? An attractive one, with glass doors so you can watch the fire, and vented to pull combustion air from the outside so you keep the heat inside. Very high efficiency rating. I did all the research a few years ago, but the DH dragged his feet about replacing the stove in our basement. Three months later, heating oil went from $1/gal to $4/gal. From a Btu standpoint, a cord of dry hickory (which we have in abundance) is the equivalent of 200 gallons of heating oil. I am still bitter.

Our 1967 ranch is a version of the Petrie house from the Dick Van Dyke show. It was in such bad shape when we bought 10 years ago, the DH refused to let his mom see it, but it was the only thing we could afford to buy here. To give you an idea, the original red carpet in the sunken living room had a path worn through to the sub-floor from the front door all the way to the kitchen, and was soaked in cat and dog urine. Our real estate agent grew up with hubby’s older brother. When we were writing up the offer, he put his head in his hands and moaned, “All I can think about is your mom saying, ‘Alan sold you this house???’”

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On April 12, 2010 at 3:31 pm Jenny said...

That’s the kind of house I always buy. This one had magenta and teal carpet. The living room had hardwood, but only around the edges; they had a big oriental rug in the middle so they just put plywood under that part. Horrible chintz wallpaper (in a theoretically modern style house) and four bathrooms, all of them five by seven with no windows, two of them off the master bedroom (his and hers). Plus the elevator shaft. But a magnificent view of the river. Sigh.

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On April 19, 2010 at 2:00 pm Michelle said...

The Not So Big House, yes! A fav. I always pay attention to your book houses. Sounds as if you know symbolism for the characters before the space is constructed/written. Do Insight buzzes about the matchup of house and character ever come later?

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